This piece is about Toast, a restaurant software company. The guest argues Toast succeeded by focusing only on restaurants with kitchens, solving owners' fear of old systems crashing. But he warns that the US independent restaurant market may be near saturation, and delivery platforms like DoorDash could weaken Toast's moat by making it easy to switch systems. Key holdings: Toast (limited growth), Square (outpaced by Toast in restaurants), DoorDash/Uber Eats (potential threat to Toast's stickiness).
Toast is a vertical market software platform built specifically for the restaurant industry. Its operating system covers the entire workflow from order taking to scheduling, and it currently serves nearly 80,000 restaurants in the United States. The core thesis is that by maintaining deep vertical f
Guest Will Schreiber (Co-founder & CEO of Bottle) deconstructs Toast from the perspective of a vertical software operator. Core thesis: Toast’s success stems from its extreme focus on the vertical of "restaurants with kitchens," and its true moat is not the POS software itself, but the integrated hardware-software ecosystem built around complex kitchen workflows. However, this advantage faces a structural risk as third-party integrations erode the dominance of POS.
Will Schreiber believes that the core driver of Toast's early product-market fit was not technological innovation, but the "fear" restaurant managers had of legacy POS systems.
Will points out that Toast’s revenue structure “does not resemble a SaaS company”—82% comes from transaction revenue with a gross margin of only 23%, while the SaaS portion boasts a gross margin of 70%.
| Item | Amount | Description |
|---|---|---|
| Total Transaction Value | $100 | Customer payment |
| Toast Retained | $2.60-$2.70 | 2.6%-2.7% take rate |
| Bank/Card Network Fees | ~$2.00-$2.10 | ~77% of retained amount |
| Toast Net Revenue | $0.50-$0.60 | ~50 basis points |
| Revenue Type | Share | Gross Margin |
|---|---|---|
| SaaS Subscriptions | 13% | ~70% |
| Transaction Revenue | 82% | ~23% |
| Hardware & Services | 5% | Loss-making (customer acquisition cost) |
| Total | 100% | ~30% |
Will believes Toast's biggest risk is not competition, but "running out of firewood"—the number of serviceable independent restaurants in the U.S. may be far smaller than the market assumes.
| Path | Feasibility | Will's Assessment |
|---|---|---|
| Penetration of U.S. independent restaurants | Limited | A 10% market share "underestimates the actual penetration rate"; remaining room may be small |
| International expansion | Uncertain | Take rates in Europe are capped by the EU at <1%; after Toast adds 50 basis points, costs become too high; the U.S. "table-turning culture" is not universal |
| Upward penetration into chains | Risky | Take rates for large clients are only 10 basis points (vs. 50 basis points for SMBs), and they tend to build in-house (e.g., Crumble Cookie uses Stripe+Adyen to build its own POS) |
| Horizontal expansion (coffee shops, etc.) | Cautious | The needs of formats without kitchens differ, potentially losing the core advantage of the "kitchen display system" |
Will presents a counterintuitive judgment: the easier third-party integrations become, the more likely Toast’s POS dominance will be eroded.
Will summarizes three principles learned from Toast, each with specific mechanisms:
| Position | Analyst View | Key Data |
|---|---|---|
| Toast | Bullish on vertical focus, but flags growth ceiling | 2023E processing volume ~$110B, revenue $3.7B, blended gross margin ~30% |
| Square | Competitive comparison; Toast has already won in the restaurant vertical | 60%+ of Square's merchants have annual transaction volume <$125K; Toast's average merchant >$1M/year |
| DoorDash/Uber Eats | Risk warning: may erode POS stickiness | The higher the share of online orders, the lower the POS switching cost |
| Revel | Competitive comparison; targets chains with 15+ locations | Chains with over 15 locations tend to choose Revel over Toast |
| Crumble Cookie | Case study: threat from in-house POS | Built full-stack POS using Stripe+Adyen; hundreds of stores require only a small engineering team |
1. Will Schreiber believes Toast’s true product-market fit stems from "fear" rather than "convenience": Restaurant managers fear their old POS systems crashing and are willing to spend hours discussing pain points—this is more effective than any sales pitch.
2. "Toast’s 10% market share understates actual penetration": Of the 860,000 restaurants in the U.S., half are chains, leaving only about 160,000 truly serviceable independent restaurants, of which Toast already serves 85,000.
3. "The easier third-party integrations become, the more likely POS systems are to be commoditized": If DoorDash orders can be easily integrated into any system, the cost for restaurants to switch POS providers drops significantly—this is a structural risk for Toast.
4. "Toast’s revenue structure does not resemble that of a SaaS company": 82% comes from transaction revenue (23% gross margin), only 13% is pure SaaS (70% gross margin), with a blended gross margin of about 30%.
5. "Toast actively screens customers through pricing": The $160/month SaaS fee requires merchants to process over $43,000 in monthly transaction volume to offset the cost via rate discounts—this keeps them focused on "real restaurants" with annual revenue >$500,000.
6. "International expansion faces structural barriers": In Europe, interchange fees are capped by the EU at <1%, making Toast’s 50-basis-point markup too costly; additionally, Europe lacks the U.S.-style "table-turn culture."
7. "Moving upmarket to chains could be a mistake": Large clients command rates as low as 10 basis points (vs. 50 basis points for SMBs) and tend to build their own POS systems (e.g., Crumble Cookie uses Stripe+Adyen to build a full-stack solution).
8. "Toast’s API ecosystem faces a ‘Microsoft-style’ dilemma": In-house features (e.g., table-side payments) compete with third-party apps, potentially discouraging developers from further investment—this is a modern version of "embrace, extend, and extinguish."