← Back to list
Oakmark FundsQuarterly30 Jun 2012Source: oakmark.com

Bill Nygren Market Commentary | 2Q12

Oakmark is the mutual fund family launched in 1991 by Harris Associates, the Chicago deep-value firm founded in 1976 (about $105bn AUM). Bill Nygren runs the flagship Oakmark Fund and David Herro the Oakmark International Fund, buying businesses at large discounts to intrinsic value and holding them like owners — publishing quarterly fund commentaries, market commentaries and insight articles.

Bill Nygren、David Herro · 1991 · 美国芝加哥Deep value / contrarian long-term

In plain words

This piece explains a common investor mistake: assuming bonds and high-dividend stocks are 'safe' without checking if they're overpriced. The author shows that buying 30-year Treasury bonds today could be riskier than stocks—if rates rise, bonds could lose nearly 30%. High-dividend stocks aren't cheap either; their valuations are 40% above historical averages. For regular investors, don't chase 'safe' assets blindly. Instead, consider overlooked large-cap stocks like Disney or eBay, where hidden value in businesses like ESPN or PayPal is ignored. Worth reading because it helps you avoid traps that look safe but are actually dangerous.

AI SummaryAI-generated · may contain errors · verify against the original

Oakmark’s research article opens with a quote from hedge fund manager Colm O'Shea, emphasizing that significant price movements stem from market participants being forced to reassess their biases, rather than from dramatic changes in the world. The core argument of the article is that, as a long-ter

~6 min full read · 10 sections
Deep Analysis

Theme and Background

This chapter discusses how investor biases lead to asset mispricing and how long-term value investors can profit from such biases. In the current market environment, investors generally view bonds and large-cap stocks as low-risk assets, but Oakmark argues that this perception overlooks valuation levels and may result in greater investment risk.

Core Thesis

The author’s core investment argument is: Investors’ risk biases toward asset classes (e.g., “large-cap stocks = low risk,” “bonds = safe”) often ignore valuation levels, and when the market is forced to reassess these biases, prices undergo violent shifts. Counterintuitive judgments include:

  • Buying bonds today may be riskier than buying stocks, as bond yields are at historically extreme lows.
  • High-dividend stocks are not a “safe” choice, as their valuations are far above historical averages.
  • Large-cap stocks are currently trading at a discount, not a premium.

Key Arguments and Data

1. Bond Risk Underestimated

  • The 30-year U.S. Treasury yield is currently around 2.7%, compared to 5.8% a decade ago and a 25-year average of 7.5%.
  • If yields revert to 5.8% in five years, the bond’s principal would fall by 43%, with five years of interest income totaling only 14%, resulting in a total loss of 29%.
  • In contrast, the S&P 500’s yield is less than one percentage point lower than bonds, with expected annual earnings growth of approximately 6%.

2. Risk Comparison Between Stocks and Bonds

Metric 30-Year Treasury S&P 500
Current Yield 2.7% Approximately 2.5%
If Yields Revert to 10-Year-Ago Levels in 5 Years Principal down 43%, total loss 29% P/E would need to fall from 12.9x to 7x to match bond losses
Historical Average P/E - Approximately 15x

3. Valuation Bubble in High-Dividend Stocks

  • Over the past 60 years, the average P/E of the 100 highest-dividend stocks in the S&P 500 was about three-quarters (a discount) of the S&P 500’s P/E.
  • Currently, these 100 stocks have a P/E of 13.9x, higher than the S&P 500’s 12.9x, representing a premium of over 40% relative to the historical average.
  • The high dividend yield (4.1% vs. the S&P 500’s 2.5%) is mainly due to a higher payout ratio (57% vs. 32%), not cheap valuations.

Companies/Assets Involved

  • Disney: When the author bought in, the market was concerned about the theme park business, but Oakmark focused on the growth of its most valuable asset, ESPN.
  • eBay: The market worried about competition with Amazon, but Oakmark believed PayPal had enormous value, making the Marketplaces business essentially free.
  • Dell: Current focus is on non-PC business growth, while the market worries about declining PC sales; the author believes the PC business is barely factored into the valuation.
  • S&P 500: Current P/E of 12.9x, with expected annual earnings growth of 6%.
  • 30-Year U.S. Treasury: Current yield of 2.7%, which the author considers an extreme valuation level.

Investment Implications

1. Reduce bonds, increase stocks: Current bond yields are extremely low, with the risk of rising interest rates far exceeding the downside risk of stocks. Investors should reassess the “bonds = safe” bias.

2. Avoid chasing high-dividend stocks: High-dividend stocks have shifted from a historical discount to a premium, and their “safety” is an illusion, with actual valuations too high.

3. Focus on large-cap discount opportunities: Large-cap stocks are currently trading at a discount, not a premium; historically, the low risk of large caps came from business scale, not market capitalization.

4. Adhere to value investing logic: Seek mispricing caused by market biases, such as Dell’s non-PC business, Disney’s undervalued ESPN, and other assets, waiting for the market to reassess.


Theme and Background

This chapter focuses on the current market bias among investors toward high-dividend stocks and Oakmark's contrarian view on this trend. The author notes that utility stocks (the most bond-like equities) currently trade at a price-to-earnings ratio nearly on par with the S&P 500, whereas historically their P/E has typically been about two-thirds of the S&P 500's, and they have traded at a discount greater than the current level 90% of the time. This reflects investors' mistaken tendency to chase yield while ignoring valuation.

Core Thesis

Oakmark argues that investors currently buying high-yield stocks for higher dividend income are making the same mistake as bond investors—ignoring valuation and mistakenly believing that high yields protect principal. The author judges that high-dividend stocks are more likely already fully priced rather than serving as a safe haven. Meanwhile, Oakmark has no bias toward the method of returning capital, believing that stock buybacks and dividend payments are equivalent in effect, with buybacks being more tax-efficient (deferring income tax). If the 2013 policy of taxing dividends at a higher rate than long-term capital gains is enacted, the appeal of high-payout companies will diminish.

Key Arguments and Data

  • Abnormal Utility Stock Valuation: Current P/E is close to that of the S&P 500, whereas since 1970, the average P/E has been about two-thirds of the S&P 500's, and the discount has been greater than the current level 90% of the time.
  • Comparison of Capital Return Methods: Stock buybacks and dividend payments have the same effect (equivalent to the company paying a dividend and investors then buying more shares), but buybacks allow for tax deferral. If the 2013 dividend tax rate exceeds the capital gains tax rate, high-dividend stocks will lose their advantage.
Metric Current Situation Historical Average/Norm
Utility Stock P/E vs. S&P 500 Nearly equal Approximately two-thirds of the S&P 500
Utility Stock Discount Magnitude Only 10% of the time has the discount been smaller 90% of the time the discount has been larger

Companies/Assets Involved

  • The Walt Disney Co.: Oakmark Fund holds 1.6%, Oakmark Select Fund holds 0% (as of June 30, 2012).
  • eBay, Inc.: Oakmark Fund holds 2.4%, Oakmark Select Fund holds 5.0%.
  • Amazon.com, Inc.: Both funds hold 0%.
  • Dell, Inc.: Oakmark Fund holds 1.9%, Oakmark Select Fund holds 3.8%.

(Note: Holdings data are as of a historical date and do not constitute current investment advice.)

Investment Implications

  • Avoid the High-Dividend Trap: The current market's enthusiasm for high-yield stocks may lead to overvaluation; investors should be wary of chasing yield while ignoring fundamental risks.
  • Focus on Capital Return Efficiency: Stock buybacks are tax-superior to dividends, especially if dividend tax rates rise, making buyback-focused companies potentially more attractive.
  • Contrarian Positioning Opportunity: Utility stock valuations are at historically extreme levels; if market bias corrects, a reversion of the discount to the mean could generate excess returns.