This interview explains the new AI paradigm, focusing on how Transformer models and 'latent space' make it easier to go from idea to output. Jeremiah Lowin says latent space is the most underrated AI power—it turns abstract concepts into math variables so models can tweak images or text like sliding a knob. He praises Midjourney's aesthetic quality (a 'secret sauce'), notes OpenAI's ChatGPT uses a new reinforcement learning method, and highlights Stable Diffusion's innovation of diffusing in latent space.
This report examines the new paradigm in the AI field following OpenAI's launch of ChatGPT. The core argument is that pre-trained Transformer models use "latent representations" to mathematically interpret input data and generate outputs, but their internal mechanisms may become a "black box." Key c
Jeremiah Lowin is the founder and CEO of Prefect, a data orchestration company, and a long-time technical advisor to Patrick O'Shaughnessy. This episode centers on the new AI paradigm triggered by OpenAI's release of ChatGPT, focusing on explaining how pre-trained Transformer models work, the technological evolution of generative AI, and the implications of these technologies for investing and entrepreneurship. Lowin argues that the most underestimated power of current AI models lies in the "latent space"—it allows humans to map abstract concepts into mathematical representations, thereby eliminating friction between "idea and output" in unprecedented ways.
Jeremiah Lowin argues that the core capability of the Transformer model does not lie in word-for-word correspondence, but in processing contextual relationships within a sequence through the "attention mechanism."
> "These Transformers are a way of processing sequences, applying different techniques, such as focusing on what's more important—literally 'paying attention'—or applying context in a certain way so that you can make subsequent decisions based on what you've seen before." —Jeremiah Lowin
Lowin believes the core magic of generative AI lies in the "latent space"—an intermediate layer that maps abstract concepts into independently adjustable mathematical variables.
> "The latent space is the source of power for these models. We map the input to a space where each concept is as independently identifiable as possible, which makes the work of output transformation much easier." —Jeremiah Lowin
Lowin believes that progress between model versions comes from three levels: more training/data, new training methods, and entirely new architectures — the latter carries the highest risk but also the highest reward.
The essence of the training process: A model has an architecture (processing pipeline) and weights (tens of billions of numbers). Training involves changing these weights through repeated iterations — running inputs, judging the quality of outputs, and mathematically calculating how to adjust each weight to move closer to the target. This process is extremely compute-intensive and time-consuming.
> "What we call 'state of the art' will be obsolete 12 months from now. I'm not talking about more training, but new architectures, new applications, entirely new things." — Jeremiah Lowin
Lowin argues that the capital threshold for training frontier models is overestimated, and the true competitive moat lies in proprietary datasets and model-level "secret sauce."
1. Proprietary Data: Datasets not publicly available (e.g., Prefect's user Q&A records, internal design documents)
2. Model Secret Sauce: For example, Midjourney's ability to guide high-quality outputs
3. User Interface: Lowering the barrier to "prompt engineering"—currently, users must input hacks like "comma, trending on ArtStation, comma, 8K, comma, 4K" to achieve high-quality outputs. Lowin believes this is not the future.
Reader's Note: Lowin is the founder of Prefect, and his firm Positive Sum has invested in Prefect. His discussion of "proprietary data as a moat" reflects a position-holder's perspective.
Lowin believes that AI currently performs best not in handling all edge cases, but in scenarios that are "well-defined yet stochastic"—and this is precisely where GitHub Copilot delivers value.
> "What Copilot really does is free up my time, allowing me to focus on the unique, idiosyncratic parts of the code that deliver core value. I define what this thing does, and then hand it over to fill in the blanks." —Jeremiah Lowin
Lowin is closely monitoring three directions: video generation, more interactive text generation, and neural rendering—the latter could fundamentally change how we capture and present 3D scenes.
> "Latent space is like—if I ask you 'what are you thinking,' don't tell me, but 'show me your thoughts.' That's latent space. You can choose a thousand different ways to turn that thought into language, or draw it out. What if we could use machines to accelerate that process?" —Jeremiah Lowin
| Position | Guest Attitude | Key Data |
|---|---|---|
| OpenAI (ChatGPT/GPT-3.5/DALL·E) | Bullish on its technological leadership, but investment stance not explicitly stated | ChatGPT uses a new form of reinforcement learning; DALL·E 2 is a diffusion model, with a completely different architecture from DALL·E 1 |
| Stability AI (Stable Diffusion) | Neutral, as an important case of open-source foundation models | Training used approximately 4,000 A100 GPUs, with an annual cost of about $40 million; at the time, the world's 10th largest supercomputer |
| Midjourney | Bullish on its aesthetic quality, believes it has a "secret sauce" | Iterations from V1 to V4 consistently produce high-quality images |
| GitHub Copilot | Positive experience, viewed as a programming partner | Can write entire lines and blocks of code; Lowin has formed a habit of "waiting for it to autocomplete" |
| DeepMind | Mentioned as an important player, not elaborated | — |
| Mentioned as an important player, not elaborated | — | |
| Luma Labs | Bullish on its neural rendering technology | Commercializes NERF (Neural Radiance Fields) technology |
| NVIDIA | Mentioned its AI eye contact correction demo | Uses AI to make eyes naturally look at the camera during video calls |
| Prefect | Lowin's own company, used as a case study | Has deployed a GPT-powered customer service bot on Slack to handle the first 80% of inquiries |
1. "The latent space is the source of AI's power" (Lowin) — It maps abstract concepts into independently adjustable mathematical variables, allowing the model to "increase the degree of a smile" or "change a watermelon from green to orange" without retraining.
2. "Today's 'state-of-the-art' will be obsolete in 12 months" (Lowin) — Progress comes from new architectures and new applications, not just more training. Stable Diffusion performs diffusion in the latent space rather than the pixel space, and this "small insight" alone brought about a revolutionary change.
3. "Capital is not a barrier; intuition and patience are" (Lowin) — Training a frontier model costs approximately $40 million per year, a reasonable expense for well-funded companies. The real constraint is the iterative process of "a group of people making bets and waiting months to see the results."
4. "Don't look for 'cooler solutions'; look for 'problems where generating things is hard'" (Lowin) — AI avatar generation is indefensible, but customer support (where users have unique questions, need fast customized answers, and companies need to scale) is a perfect application scenario.
5. "AI excels at 'regular variations' but struggles with extreme edge cases" (Lowin) — The value of Copilot lies in handling repetitive tasks that vary slightly each time (writing CRUD APIs, tests, documentation), not in dealing with anomalies never seen before.
6. "Hacks in prompt engineering (comma, 8K, comma, 4K) are not the future" (Lowin) — Current users need to input a large number of "negative prompts" to prevent the model from generating garbage; lowering this barrier will be an important competitive dimension.
7. "The moat comes from proprietary data + model recipes" (Lowin) — Proprietary datasets (such as Prefect's user Q&A records) and model-level guidance mechanisms (such as Midjourney's high-quality output guidance) are sustainable advantages.
8. "Neural rendering will change how we interact with virtual worlds" (Lowin) — AI can capture 3D scenes with high fidelity and render them in a browser, with potential applications ranging from video calls to movie special effects. The current bottleneck lies in generation fidelity ("all hands have five fingers").