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Colossus (Invest Like the Best / Business Breakdowns)Podcast30 Jan 2024Source: joincolossus.comHost: Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Alex Telford - Unlocking Innovation in Pharma - [Invest Like the Best, EP.360]

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This piece says pharma's R&D returns are near zero—most drugs never recoup costs, and the industry relies on a few blockbusters like Humira ($20B/year). New therapies (CAR-T, gene therapy) are so complex that Bristol-Myers Squibb's CAR-T unit has as many employees as treated patients (4,000 each). AI helps more with paperwork than drug discovery. Key picks: Novo Nordisk—went from a boring insulin maker to the 15th largest company via GLP-1 drugs; Bristol-Myers Squibb (Celgene)—its CAR-T complexity shows the scaling challenge; Humira (AbbVie)—a $20B blockbuster that keeps the system running.

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Alex Telford discussed innovation in the pharmaceutical industry on the Invest Like the Best program. The core view is that drug development efficiency urgently needs improvement, with future directions including breakthroughs in gene therapy and AI applications. He analyzed the complex process from

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Alex Telford - Unlocking Innovation in Pharma - [Invest Like the Best, EP.360]

Episode Overview

Alex Telford is the founder of Convoke, a platform that simplifies drug development and commercialization processes; he has been writing a biotech industry blog since 2019. The main thread of this episode: the pharmaceutical industry is at an inflection point where "low-hanging fruit is exhausted" and "next-generation therapies are emerging," with innovation efficiency and regulatory balance as its core contradictions. The most weighty judgment of the entire episode: Alex Telford argues that the actual R&D return rate in the pharmaceutical industry is near zero, most companies do not make money, and the entire industry relies on a handful of "lottery-style" blockbuster drugs to cover the massive cost of failures—and this structure is being challenged by the increasing complexity of new drug modalities (e.g., cell therapies, gene therapies).


Drug Discovery Efficiency: From the "Golden Age" to the "Depletion of Low-Hanging Fruit"

Alex Telford argues that the history of the pharmaceutical industry is a cyclical history of "low-hanging fruit being picked first, then new tools opening up new frontiers."

  • Late 19th to early 20th century: The pharmaceutical industry evolved from herbal extracts and the dye industry, with antibiotics (during World War II) becoming the first major success—discovered by "going out into the field to find soil samples," limited to infectious diseases.
  • 1950s (The Janssen era): Belgian physician Paul Janssen pioneered "rational drug design," using emerging chemical tools to modify natural compounds (morphine, pethidine, atropine). This period was the golden age of low-hanging fruit—molecular tools had just matured, and there were abundant natural starting points available for modification.
  • 1980s to present: The low-hanging fruit of traditional small-molecule drugs have been depleted, and the biotechnology industry has risen. Two curves overlap: the declining efficiency curve of traditional pharma + the rising curve of biotechnology (recombinant DNA, CRISPR).
  • Key data point: From academic target discovery to drug launch, the average time is 20 years (±10 years).

> "If you recall, Janssen had a gut feeling that the compound pethidine could be improved to make a better drug—but he didn't know exactly how to improve it optimally. He was just trial and error." — In other words, Janssen's "intuition-driven trial and error" was the core model of early discovery.


Next-Generation Therapies: Innovation from "Pill" to "Process"

Alex Telford believes that the most impactful technologies over the next 10–20 years are already in their infancy, and share a common trait: "the drug itself is a complex process," rather than a traditional oral tablet.

Four emerging categories (ordered by complexity and industrial maturity):

Category Mechanism Representative Cases/Data Key Challenges
Monoclonal Antibodies Artificially produced antibodies that bind to specific proteins to inhibit or kill targets Humira (~$20 billion annual revenue, anti-TNF-α inflammatory drug); Keytruda (currently the world's best-selling drug) Manufacturing process is relatively mature (cultured in bioreactors)
Gene Therapy Uses viral vectors to deliver a functional copy of a gene into cells to compensate for a defective gene Zolgensma (treats spinal muscular atrophy; severely affected children typically die before age 1, now can be nearly cured) Delivery technology (viral vectors) is the core bottleneck; only a few successful commercial cases
Cell Therapy (CAR-T) Immune cells are extracted from the patient, genetically edited, and reinfused to attack cancer cells After Bristol-Myers Squibb (百时美施贵宝) acquired Celgene, the number of employees (~4,000) equals the number of patients treated (~4,000) Manufacturing is extremely complex: collect cells → air freight → gene editing → air freight back for infusion, all must be completed in a very short time
Radiopharmaceuticals Targeting element + radionuclide to selectively kill cancer cells Several companies have made large-scale acquisitions in recent years Short half-life (e.g., 7 days); manufacturing → delivery must be completed within days, otherwise the drug becomes ineffective

> "These complex therapies are the moats that pharmaceutical companies are building—much harder to replicate than traditional pills. But their delivery itself is an extremely complex product-as-process." — In other words, the innovation direction shifts from "molecular design" to "system design and delivery."


AI 的真实角色:工具而非革命

Alex Telford 对 AI 在制药领域的应用持「短期悲观、长期乐观」态度,且认为 AI 在流程自动化上的价值大于在药物发现本身。

  • 发现环节:AlphaFold 可以预测蛋白质结构,但对药物结合位点的细粒度预测仍不准确,且训练数据来自数十年辛苦收集的晶体结构。它只是「庞大拼图中的一小块」。
  • 流程自动化(短期更乐观):AI 可用于准备监管文件、识别适合入组临床试验的患者、优化市场机会优先级排序——这些都是当前药物开发真正的速率限制瓶颈
  • 核心论断药物发现并不受限于「设计分子」的能力,而是受限于下游的临床开发与测试——即便 AI 完美设计出分子,仍需要多年临床试验才能验证。

> 「发现药物方面的能力,并不是由我们设计分子的能力所限制的——它更受限于下游的临床开发和测试,以及我们为批准上市所需收集的信息。」——意即真正瓶颈在临床验证端,而非分子设计端。


Regulation and Acceleration: Balancing 'Safety' and 'Invisible Deaths'

Alex Telford argues that the biggest challenge for regulators is balancing 'keeping harmful drugs off the market' against 'missing the chance to save lives due to overly slow approvals' — and that different diseases require different standards of evidence.

  • AIDS case (historical turning point): During the 1980s AIDS crisis, patient groups protested the FDA applying diabetes standards to AIDS — when patients were "going to die anyway," the FDA eventually accelerated approval of AZT and DDI (though not highly effective drugs, they started an iterative path that eventually led to highly effective therapies). This gave rise to the accelerated approval pathway.
  • Differentiated evidence standards: For diseases with existing effective therapies like diabetes, high evidence standards (large-scale mortality trials) should be required; for rare diseases or those without standard therapies, weaker evidence + stricter post-market data collection should be accepted.
  • Importance of surrogate endpoints: For example, tumor shrinkage as a surrogate for survival — can significantly shorten development time. But chronic complex diseases (e.g., aging) lack reliable surrogate endpoints: "Until we find a surrogate for aging, we will never get drugs that extend lifespan."
  • Limitations of RCTs: Randomized controlled trials remain the gold standard, but they are infeasible in ultra-rare diseases with very few patients (as few as single-digit patients in the U.S.), requiring new methods such as digital twins and natural history cohorts.
  • Falsification condition: If regulators do not more strictly require confirmatory trials after accelerated approval, the industry will engage in arbitrage by "taking accelerated approval and then delaying or avoiding confirmatory trials."

Industry Structure: Lottery-like Economy and the Tension Between 'Innovation vs Harvesting'

Alex Telford argues that the pharmaceutical industry is essentially a 'lottery-like' economy, with revenue following an extreme Pareto distribution, and that this structure is being threatened by companies' tendency to 'prioritize accounting over science.'

Indicator Data
Proportion of approved drugs that cannot recover average development costs 55%
Share of global pharmaceutical revenue from blockbuster drugs (annual revenue >$10 billion) 30-40%
Number of active blockbuster drugs globally Approximately 170
Multiple of US drug prices (net) vs. Europe Approximately 2x
US share of global pharmaceutical market revenue ~40% (within 10 years of new drug launch, ~60%)
Pharmaceutical company net profit margin (after all costs) Approximately 10-20%
  • Disruptive assessment: "The industry's R&D return rate is actually close to zero" — most companies have very low returns on investment, while a few 'super winners' (e.g., Humira with annual revenue of $20 billion) pay for all the failures.
  • Defense logic for high US drug prices: "If you cut down the tallest stalks of grain, you are essentially removing the incentive for the entire system to invest in developing new drugs" — because the extreme distribution of returns means that 'super winners' must be retained to keep the system running.
  • Biggest concern: Companies are shifting from 'innovation-driven' to 'accounting-driven' — investing in complex therapies that are difficult to replicate (e.g., radiopharmaceuticals, CAR-T) to extend patent life and harvest existing products, rather than investing in uncertain basic research. "If a company's management is entirely focused on accounting thinking, you won't get breakthrough drugs like Keytruda or GLP-1."

Mentioned Targets

Target Guest Attitude Key Data
Novo Nordisk Not explicitly stated (mentioned as a positive example) Once considered a "boring European insulin company," later rose to become the world's 15th largest company due to GLP-1 drugs; GLP-1 R&D spanned decades
Bristol-Myers Squibb (acquisition of Celgene) Risk warning (manufacturing complexity) In CAR-T business, number of employees (~4,000) ≈ number of treated patients (~4,000), reflecting process complexity and labor intensity
Humira (AbbVie) Not explicitly stated (used as a representative blockbuster) Annual revenue ~$20 billion, anti-TNF-α antibody, listed as a typical "super winner"
Keytruda (Merck) Not explicitly stated (used as the best-selling drug) Currently the world's best-selling drug, monoclonal antibody
Zolgensma (Novartis) Not explicitly stated (used as an early success of gene therapy) Treats spinal muscular atrophy, severely affected children usually die before age 1, now can be nearly cured

Key Takeaways

1. "The actual R&D return rate in the pharmaceutical industry is close to zero, and most companies are not profitable" (Alex Telford) — Industry revenue follows an extreme Pareto distribution: 55% of drugs fail to recover their average development cost, while 30-40% of revenue comes from only about 170 blockbuster drugs.

2. "Drug discovery is not limited to designing molecules, but to downstream clinical development" (Alex Telford) — Even if AI perfectly designs a molecule, it still requires 10 years of clinical trials for validation. The short-term value of AI lies more in process automation (e.g., patient screening, regulatory document preparation) than in molecular design.

3. "The next wave of innovation shifts from 'pills' to 'processes' — CAR-T has as many employees as patients" (Alex Telford) — In Bristol Myers Squibb's CAR-T business, 4,000 employees serve 4,000 patients, illustrating that complex therapies are becoming a new moat for pharmaceutical companies, but the difficulty of industrialization has steeply increased.

4. "If you cut down the tallest ears of grain, you destroy the entire system" (Alex Telford) — U.S. drug prices are 2 times the global average, but high prices are a necessary condition for the extreme revenue distribution: retaining the super winners (e.g., Humira with annual revenue of $20 billion) is essential to sustain the industry's willingness to invest.

5. "Until we find surrogate endpoints for aging, we will not get drugs that extend lifespan" (Alex Telford) — Surrogate endpoints (e.g., tumor shrinkage as a surrogate for survival) can dramatically shorten development timelines, but chronic complex diseases (such as aging) lack reliable surrogate endpoints, which is a bottleneck in R&D.

6. "The biggest long-term risk is not overly strict regulation, but companies shifting from 'science-driven' to 'accounting-driven'" (Alex Telford) — Companies tend to invest in hard-to-replicate complex therapies (radiopharmaceuticals, CAR-T) to extend patent lifecycles, rather than betting on uncertain basic research — "Science that takes 20-30 years of trial and error to yield results is being squeezed by the logic of quarterly earnings."

7. "The true value of accelerated approval for HIV was not those drugs themselves, but that it kickstarted the iterative path" (Alex Telford) — Early AZT/DDI were not highly effective, but by generating initial revenue and market, they incentivized subsequent iterations, ultimately leading to highly effective therapies. This reflects the industry logic of "first get the wheels turning."

8. "Eroom's law (the reverse of Moore's law) is real — the pace of learning is too slow" (Alex Telford) — The iteration cycle in pharma is in stark contrast with the tech industry: tech can complete A/B testing in days, while pharma clinical trials take 10 years. Any technology that accelerates the feedback loop (e.g., automated trial-and-error, digital twins) is highly valuable.