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Colossus (Invest Like the Best / Business Breakdowns)Podcast28 Sep 2026Source: colossus.comHost: Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Noah Shinn - Building Instinct: The Personal Agent - [Invest Like the Best, EP.493]

In plain words

This is about Instinct, a personal AI assistant that works via text, phone, or email like a human. Founder Noah Shinn believes all software will collapse into one simple interface, and Instinct is at the forefront—launched a year ago, zero marketing, 10% daily growth, and over $1 billion in annual transaction volume. He's bullish on travel and food delivery, arguing agents will reduce friction and boost transactions. Key holdings: Muse (Amazon's similar product but different approach), Uber Eats (agents will increase ordering frequency), and travel OTAs (50% of transactions from travel, hotels willing to pay 30% commission). Shinn rejects ads, earning via transaction fees.

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Noah Shinn founded Instinct, a personal AI assistant that users can interact with via text, phone, or email, much like communicating with another person. Instinct has its own dedicated phone and computer, enabling it to perform nearly all online tasks on behalf of the user. Launched about a year ago

~12 min full read · 9 sections
Deep Analysis

At a Glance

Noah Shinn is the founder of Instinct, a personal AI assistant with its own dedicated phone and computer that users can interact with via text, email, or phone calls, much like communicating with another person. The core theme of this issue is how personal agents are reshaping users' interaction with the digital world, and Instinct's unique path in trust-building, business model, and infrastructure. Noah Shinn believes that all software will ultimately collapse into a single simple interface, and Instinct stands at the forefront of this transformation — launched about a year ago, with zero marketing spend, growing approximately 10% daily, and already processing over $1 billion in annual transaction volume on the platform.

Building Trust: The Critical Curve from Zero to 80% Retention

Noah Shinn argues that user trust in a personal agent needs to accumulate naturally over weeks, rather than being accelerated through forced authorization.

  • Data shows that after three weeks of using Instinct, there is a 40% probability that a user has already shared their personal credit card information. Shinn views this as a proxy for trust — "time to first credit card" is a key signal for measuring whether a user truly trusts the agent.
  • Once a user shares at least one piece of sensitive information (credit card, email password, etc.), an 80% retention rate follows. Shinn notes that this is a "crazy" number for consumer technology.
  • Trust-building follows a "chicken-and-egg" cycle: the more data, the more proactive and empathetic the agent becomes toward the user's situation; but users should share data at a pace they are comfortable with, and can withdraw it at any time. Shinn emphasizes: "Users should always be in control of their own data."

Shinn breaks down security concerns into two layers:

1. Storage security: This is a "solvable problem" that simply requires significant effort to ensure data isolation and lockdown.

2. New risk surface: For the first time, agents are empowered to autonomously use credit cards, access email, and calendars. Instinct has built a "firewall" system decoupled from the agent architecture — all content entering the agent is first intercepted/blocked/denied; every action the agent takes is paused, intercepted, and approved by an independent system before execution.

Business Model: Rejecting Ads, Betting on Transaction Fees

Noah Shinn explicitly rejects the advertising model, arguing that a personal agent should not act against user interests to influence their behavior.

  • Shinn points out that major platforms like Google, TikTok, and Instagram exchange free services for user attention, then sell ad slots to brands — essentially "convincing users to buy things they may not want." He states bluntly: "If you're not paying, you are the product."
  • Instinct's business model is transaction fees — the platform's annual transaction volume has already exceeded $1 billion (compounding at roughly 10% daily growth), with 50% coming from travel. Shinn compares Instinct to Apple Pay or Amex: users get a premium experience for free, while merchants benefiting from distribution pay for it.
  • Regarding the fee rate, Shinn believes Instinct is on an unknown curve of "distribution power vs. take rate." He cites reference points: Shopify at roughly 2.5-3%, Amazon at about 10%, Apple at about 30%. He specifically notes that in the travel industry, boutique hotels are willing to pay up to 30% commission per transaction — "We're not looking for 30 basis points on 2.5%; we're seeing if we can provide enough value to position ourselves at the upper end of this curve."

Industry Impact in the Agent Era: From Travel to Food Delivery

Noah Shinn believes that personal agents will fundamentally reshape digital service industries, not through "disruption" but through "conversion" — reducing friction and increasing transaction volume.

  • Shinn uses a framework to assess the degree of impact on each industry: breaking down revenue into "share of user attention" and "share of underlying service delivery." If a business benefits from more transactions (even at the cost of less in-app time), the agent era will be favorable to it; if nearly 100% of revenue comes from user attention (e.g., social media), agents will "liberate the user."
  • Take Uber Eats as an example: a user only needs to tell Instinct "I want to order my usual from this restaurant," and the agent completes the order. Shinn believes this will not reduce Uber Eats' business but may increase it — because friction approaches zero, users will use the service more frequently.
  • For the travel industry, Shinn demonstrates the agent's power: a user simply says "I need to go to New York tonight," and Instinct automatically books the flight (with preferred seat, meal, credit card), hotel, Uber pickup, and calendar sync — "The user literally just recorded a voice message, and everything else was solved."
  • Restaurant reservations are another area being restructured. The traditional model is "first come, first served," but agents enable two-way communication: the user conveys "this is a 30th birthday dinner," and the restaurant can prioritize important occasions. Shinn believes this will lead to more precise supply-demand matching.

Shinn advises traditional companies to respond to the agent era through "phased experimentation": Instead of full-scale openness, run A/B tests on 1% of users, observe changes in metrics like transaction volume and user satisfaction, then gradually expand.

Infrastructure Challenges: Exponential Demand for Compute Resources

Noah Shinn reveals that he spends about 40% of his time thinking about compute resources — the most critical bottleneck Instinct faces.

  • The core contradiction: users are compounding at a 10% daily growth rate, meaning compute demand doubles every week; while the lead time for procuring compute resources is 3-4 months. If calculated at a conservative growth rate of 5-8%, the user base could reach 100 million in 3-4 months. Shinn faces the question: "Do you buy compute for 100 million users? If you're wrong, the cost is 3-4 times."
  • On cost control, Instinct has achieved significant optimization through customized inference deployment: allocating different workloads (real-time vs. batch) to different deployment forms, achieving efficiency improvements of 3x, 5x, and 8x respectively. Shinn says Instinct can run with the same performance as Opus 5 (frontier model), but at a "very low" cost.
  • Regarding future compute demand, Shinn believes that the "proactiveness" of personal agents will cause them to consume far more tokens than code-generation products. Instinct's architecture allows it to "wake up" and "sleep" at any time during the day — for example, waking up at 6 AM to scan the day's schedule, then waking again at 4 PM to execute predictive tasks. Shinn concludes: "We've only just scratched the surface of token demand."

Competitive Landscape and Growth Strategy

Noah Shinn believes the personal agent market is still in its early stages, and competition is not the current focus.

  • Regarding Muse (Amazon's similar product), Shinn comments "it's a good product, but the path is different" — Muse is "a new app and a new interface," while Instinct pursues "simplicity and extreme accessibility."
  • Shinn notes that the actual penetration rate of current AI products remains extremely low: "Walk into a nearby coffee shop and see how many people are using AI the way they imagine? Very few."
  • Instinct uses an invite-only growth model, with each user receiving 5 invite slots. Starting from an initial 200 users, the daily growth rate has gradually climbed from 1-2% to the current 10-11%, with zero marketing spend. Shinn observes that users are even selling invites on eBay for $300 — "This is one of the strongest cases of word-of-mouth growth I've ever seen."
  • Regarding future fundraising, Shinn confirms the latest round is approximately $1 billion, with a valuation of about $10 billion, led by Sequoia, Benchmark, KOTU, and others. He emphasizes that capital is used to "take compute risk" and "escape the local optimum of the subscription model" — "We could easily charge each user $100 per month, but that's not our goal."

Interface Evolution: From Apps to "No Interface"

Noah Shinn believes that all software will ultimately collapse into a single simple interface, and Instinct is evolving in that direction.

  • Currently, Instinct has no standalone app; users interact through existing channels like iMessage, WhatsApp, phone calls, and email. Over 50% of traffic does not run through iMessage.
  • Shinn envisions future interfaces becoming even simpler: users might engage in real-time voice interaction with the agent through AirPods, with the agent able to recognize when the user is speaking to it and when not. "You're walking down the street, the agent says 'This contract needs your review,' you say 'Okay, put 15 minutes on my calendar' — that's the future."
  • In the short term, Instinct may introduce richer expression interfaces (e.g., dynamically generated web pages for travel itineraries), but the long-term trend is "simpler." Shinn concludes: "Over the past 20 years, every time you needed to display information, you had to build a new app. I believe all software will collapse into a very simple interface."

Mentioned Positions

Position Analyst View Key Data
Muse (Amazon) Neutral "Good product, but different path"—Muse is a new app, Instinct focuses on simple access
Uber Eats / DoorDash Bullish (agents will increase transaction volume) Friction approaching zero will boost usage frequency
Travel Industry (OTA) Bullish (agents will restructure) 50% of transaction volume comes from travel; boutique hotels willing to pay 30% commission
Apple Pay / Amex Comparable benchmarks Business model reference: free for users, merchants pay fees
Shopify / Amazon / Apple Commission rate benchmarks 2.5-3% / ~10% / 30%

Judgments Worth Remembering

1. Noah Shinn believes it takes about three weeks for users to trust an agent—40% of users share their credit card within three weeks, and once shared, retention reaches 80%. Trust is a "chicken-and-egg" problem: the more data an agent has, the more useful it becomes, but users should share at their own comfortable pace.

2. Shinn explicitly rejects the advertising model: "If you're not paying, you are the product. Instinct should not influence user behavior against their interests." He contrasts this with platforms like Google and TikTok, which offer free services in exchange for attention and then sell it to brands.

3. Shinn breaks down security issues into two layers: "storage security" and "new risk surfaces," the latter requiring an independent monitoring system decoupled from the agent architecture. Every action taken by the agent is paused, intercepted, and approved by an independent system before execution—"like a watchdog."

4. Shinn believes the agent era will "transform" rather than "disrupt" the digital services industry—reducing friction will increase transaction volume. He cites Uber Eats as an example: a user only needs to say "order what I usually eat," and the agent can complete the order, which will not reduce business but may actually increase it.

5. Shinn reveals that he spends about 40% of his time thinking about computing resource issues—the core contradiction is 10% daily user growth versus a 3–4 month lead time for computing resources. If calculated at a conservative growth rate, the user base could reach 100 million in 3–4 months.

6. Shinn puts forward the thesis that "all software will collapse into a single simple interface"—over the past 20 years, every time information needed to be displayed, a new app had to be built; in the future, this will disappear. Instinct currently has no standalone app; users interact through existing channels, and the long-term trend is "simpler."

7. Shinn believes agents will evolve from "task executors" to "goal pursuers"—users set high-level goals (e.g., "reach this pace within three months"), and the agent autonomously plans and executes. Some users already run their entire small business backend on Instinct.

8. Shinn describes Instinct's invite-only growth as "the strongest word-of-mouth growth case I have ever seen"—zero marketing spend, 10% daily growth, with users even selling invites for $300 on eBay. Each user has only five invite slots, but about 10% of users choose to use one each day.