This interview is about what makes a truly great company. Investor Chris Bloomstran says the key is 'incremental return on capital'—how much profit a company earns when it reinvests its earnings. He uses Costco as an example: its overall return rose from 11% to 21% as new stores matured. He likes companies that bring distribution in-house, like Richemont (owner of Cartier), which bought back and even destroyed watches to avoid discounting, and Disney, which pulled content from Netflix for its own streaming service. He is heavily invested in Berkshire Hathaway, citing its 'permanent' subsidiaries like railroads and insurance. He also warns that many companies inflate profits by ignoring write-offs, so their real earnings are lower.
Chris Bloomstran, President and CIO of Semper Augustus Investments Group, delves into the definition of high-quality businesses in this episode of Invest Like the Best. His core argument: truly quality companies possess unique business models, high incremental returns on capital, and ownership of customer relationships. He specifically analyzes the trend of companies like Richemont and Disney bringing distribution back in-house, arguing this strengthens their moats. Regarding Berkshire Hathaway, Bloomstran notes that its future protection lies in the strong cash flows of its subsidiaries and insurance float. He also emphasizes that growth and value are not opposites—high-quality companies, even with slower growth, deliver superior long-term returns compared to mediocre high-growth firms.
Chris Bloomstran believes that the most important metric for assessing the quality of a business is the incremental return on capital—the rate of return a company can achieve by reinvesting its retained earnings. He elaborates on this view using the case of Costco.
Bloomstran highlights a key investment theme: "bringing distribution back in house," where companies take direct control of customer touchpoints rather than relying on third parties. He illustrates this with Richemont, Disney, and Cummins.
Bloomstran provides an in-depth analysis of Berkshire Hathaway, arguing that its most critical historical decision was the 1998 acquisition of General Re. This was not a bad deal but a successful strategic transformation. He elaborates on this judgment in detail.
Bloomstran emphasizes that he adjusts GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Principles) data to uncover a company's true economic profitability, which constitutes a core differentiating advantage in his investment process. He focuses primarily on two types of adjustments:
| Ticker | Guest Stance | Key Data |
|---|---|---|
| Costco | Bullish (Long-term Hold) | Return on capital rose from 11% to 21-22%; gross margin fell from 14% to 11%; net margin rose from 1.8% to 2.1% |
| Dollar General | Bullish (Hold) | Plans to double store count from 15,000 to 24,000-25,000; 70% of business in rural markets |
| Richemont | Bullish (Hold) | Gross margin 65%; high-end watch gross margin up to 90%; acquired Net-a-Porter and Watchfinder |
| Disney | Bullish (Hold) | Recovered content from Netflix; acquired full stake in Hulu; holds a large portfolio of "tentpole" IP |
| Cummins | Bullish (Hold) | Acquired independent service centers; diesel engines hard to replace by batteries in the Class 8 truck market |
| Berkshire Hathaway | Bullish (Heavy Position) | Book value $350 billion; railroad business valued at ~$100 billion; cash reserves $110 billion |
| Subsea 7 | Bullish (Hold) | Norwegian oil & gas engineering firm; Bloomstran sees deepwater drilling investment opportunities |
| Five Below | Neutral (Too expensive, not held) | P/E ratio 60x; unit economics described as "best" |
| MasterCard / Visa | Neutral (Not held, due to price and regulatory risk) | Not disclosed |
| Ross Stores | Not disclosed (Sold, then surged 20x) | Bought at 10x P/E; became a 20-bagger after sale |
| Microsoft | Neutral (Previously held, fully liquidated) | Market cap $620 billion in 2000, sales $20 billion; share price later fell 75% |
| General Mills | Risk Warning | Incentive compensation threshold lowered from 3% organic growth to -1.4%; growth driven by $8 billion acquisition of Blue Buffalo |
| Mylan Labs | Risk Warning | Suspicious management accounting, frequent CFO turnover, bribery issues |
| Coca-Cola | Risk Warning | P/E ratio 45x in 1998; total return over the next 20 years only 4.5%/year, underperforming the S&P 500 |
1. “Incremental return on capital is the most important metric for evaluating management.” (Chris Bloomstran) — Costco’s case proves that even if the initial return rate is not high, as the proportion of mature stores increases, the overall return rate will continue to improve.
2. “The only way to kill the Vacheron Constantin brand is to make the product cheaper.” (Johan Rupert, as relayed by Bloomstran) — Richemont maintains brand value by repurchasing and destroying inventory, sacrificing short-term profits for a long-term moat.
3. “Once Netflix loses Disney’s content, I’m not sure they can do what Disney does.” (Chris Bloomstran) — Disney maximizes the value of its IP library (Marvel, Star Wars, etc.) by reclaiming distribution rights.
4. “The General Re deal was not a bad deal, but a shift in asset allocation from stocks to bonds.” (Chris Bloomstran) — Bloomstran argues that without this deal, Berkshire’s book value might have only grown to $110 billion, rather than the actual $350 billion.
5. “15% of the annual net profit of S&P 500 companies is written off.” (Chris Bloomstran) — This adjustment reveals that corporate real profitability is far lower than GAAP data, and is one reason why long-term market returns lag behind return on equity.
6. “Dollar General’s rural market is a natural moat against Amazon.” (Chris Bloomstran) — The economics of Amazon delivering small orders to rural areas are very poor, and Dollar General’s 7,500-square-foot small-store model is hard to replicate.
7. “Growth is an extremely important component of the value equation.” (Chris Bloomstran) — He admits that early on, he focused too much on low P/E ratios and missed many high-growth companies (e.g., Five Below), and is now willing to pay a higher price for high-quality growth.
8. “Berkshire’s future protection lies in the ‘permanence’ of its subsidiaries.” (Chris Bloomstran) — Railroad networks and utilities are hard to replace, and management has cultivated a deep succession bench.